Nothing, please do not create your own system apps

hexagonal707x · 2024-01-07T12:14:26+00:00

Google apps are enough. Why do you want another calculator app or gallery app. This is the problem it creates. Now companies like Nothing, Oneplus, Samsung have to create their own versions of the same app you already got from Google. The difference is Google updates their app and companies like Nothing, OnePlus don't update after some time. After a few OS upgrades, your phone will be having an older version of the app while the newer phone models of these companies will have the latest version of the app. And they don't even bother to update their own system apps. Then also people will be complaining why aren't these companies not updating their system apps for older phones. That's why sticking to Google apps are better. that's why stock Android is better. I have a Nothing Phone 2. Previous Pixel Owner. My dad has OnePlus. I can tell you right now. Telling companies to make their own version of system apps is a bad idea. They'll be lazy and never update it for older phones whereas Google apps will be always the latest on any phone. OnePlus was shit when it came to their Oxygen OS. Same with Samsung. Duplicate apps.. Google photos and Gallery app, files by Google and File manager by OnePlus. Well guess what OnePlus never updates these apps. I think Carl Pei already knows the duplicate apps situation. I don't think he's gonna make a nothing gallery app or calculator app. And that is a good thing. Whatever Nothing is doing now is literally perfect. Perfect amount of their apps that doesn't create situation of duplicate app. I hope Nothing keeps it like this. UI experience is clean and simple. If you're going to be committed to the whole design philosophy. You gotta make it reach to every phone you ever created. For example Nothing themed apps just like how Google apps update even on their old phones. Else stick with what you're doing right now. And people stop asking for a Gallery app. It will be start of duplicate apps. If you want a gallery app that much, it should atleast have Google photos and iCloud integration. Without it, it's so pointless. Don't turn this company into Samsung and OnePlus with their boat load of duplicate apps. Thank you.

hexagonal707x

Watch everyone coming back to Google Photos 😂😂

https://blog.google/products/photos/google-photos-editing-features-availability/

hexagonal707x

𝐚𝐧𝐦𝐨𝐥 Man I have no problems with Nothing Apps. You all will be the same people who are going to complain when Nothing doesn’t update their system apps in the future. Just saying 🤷🏻.

Google apps get updates frequently.

SiYAn

I think Google gallery is bit annoying to use

i dont like it anyway

I’m keenly excited to see Nothing Gallery App

rest apps are just fine no need for another apps , Google apps are just fine .

MillBurry

adbo Yeah…please ignore the OP…

The visual cohesiveness of the UI is one of the reasons I bought the nothing phone and no major android vendor, including Google, really focus on visually pleasing, at least to my eye, design in this area.

Weirdly, Samsung is probably the closest; OneUI’s dialer, text and calendar apps actually look good (shame about the rest of oneui).

Nothing extending the design language of nothingOS further to additional core android apps is likely what will end up keeping me brand loyal.

Jean

I have an idea that could please everyone.

Since multiple Google apps cannot be uninstalled to have Google Play certification, Nothing can develop it’s own apps, but make them uninstallable if they fulfill a similar role to a stock Google app that cannot be uninstallable.

They could ask the user during the initial setup if they want the available Nothing apps to be downloaded (hypothetical Gallery app, Dialer app, Messaging app, etc.) and then allow them to be uninstalled later if the user wishes.

I personally would use mostly Nothing apps for the feeling of visual cohesion across the entire OS.

I_amtheDoc

Remi F hell some people want the design, even without having a Nothing phone.. I already have NDot as a system font on my Samsung and the Nothing colors set as a theme.. if they were to release their apps, and make them non exclusive… they’d be getting that name out there even further

Rmck066

adbo Is it possible for that to happen the other way around? So if nothing apps become good enough and popular enough that the majority of user would prefer Nothings own apps that those become the default? Or is that a limitation of android?

100hzpanic

Rmck066 I would prefer nothing apps 24/7, the company is fire as hell

arasha

hexagonal707x In fact, it is better to have apps by default that give us the feeling of “Nothing” even in apps

yethuck

Agree with the opinion. But some people over here is crying loudly for nothing styles appa. Most important thing they have to do is to polish the current nothing appa and the OS itself. Still the pictures from the device is too much unreliable and the image processing is too much digital in look. The OS needs more refinement for the performance and so n so. Instead of already available Google apps they could release a community app of nothing 🤷.

Ant-e-so-shial

adbo If I could wish the impossible then Nothing should go the Apple route. They should just create their own complete OS and apps. But that’s quite impossible for now. Best way to go with it would be expanding the teams and hiring a lot of freelancers, create OS and apps, after freelancers and Nothing teams are done with the job then with the remaining team they should maintain the apps.

But it’s easy to say than do idk how it’ll work practically

RahulPegwal

hexagonal707x start

hexagonal707x if it is so then nothing should have given stock android instead of nothing os, because their os is based on NDOT font and google apps are very fake or don’t match with nothing os, we are fan of nothing so I want nothing apps if you like google apps you can go with pixel device

oliverwhite2711

adbo There’s only two apps. To be fair I’m not on a nothing phone right now so it’s prob not showing cos I don’t have the right hardware to run them.

sean (1)

In principal I’m not against Nothing creating branded apps, but:

at this stage resources are better spent improving the OS, or –
partner up with a developer and re-skin their existing, feature packed apps.
must be no less secure or private
must be able to uninstall them

GabrieliusMarkauskas

hexagonal707x in my personal opinion, I think they should make the most needed apps like dialer or texting apps and maybe even make an intervation with Google’s stuff to move from Google or icloud to nothing. It’s pretty much just a preference thing.

I’m really looking forward to see how this company evolves, I’d love to see some more redesigned stuff in the os as well. Maybe change how the power menu looks when you press and hold the power button.

kleiber_arts

I’ve used Redmi Note’s files app (explorer) and I think Google one’s is inferior to it tbh…

oliverwhite2711

kleiber_arts exactly my point. Literally every Google app is so unadvanced.

Anonymous931

kleiber_arts My other phone is a Redmi, I have that File Manger, and when comparing them detail to detail, side by side, the only feature that Files by Google doesn’t have or can’t do is FTP. Literally the only thing.

They both have:

Quick Share directly in the app at the front/land screen
Private files (Google’s is better)
Ability to see detailed folder and file info (Google’s is better)
Ability to sort by (Google’s is better because it has “newest first” and “oldest first”, Xiaomi’s doesn’t)
Search and search history (but Google’s has indexing, Xiaomi’s doesn’t)
Creating and extracting archived folders/files
Categories clearly visible when you open the app (Images, Music, Video, Apps…)
Favourite files and/or folders (Google’s is better, more customisable)
Show hidden files and folders
Clean(er) (Google’s one is better than Xiaomi’s junk)

What Files by Google has over Xiaomi’s File Manager :

Cleaner interface
Ability to view folders and files as tiles (with thumbnail and details too, not just as a list
Direct “Back up to Google Drive” (and a whole Google Drive integration)

What Xiaomi’s File Manager has over Files by Google doesn’t:

Ads directly in the app, if you don’t block them
FTP

Versions of both, screenshots taken this moment:

oliverwhite2711 exactly my point. Literally every Google app is so unadvanced.

If you define unadvanced as less in-app bloat and less clutter then yes, they are.

CMF1_hacker

waste of limited dev resource. leave it to the third parties … I use N Dial, N Cal, N Keyboard and some other apps that keep with the theme of NOTHING. The Gallery app is OK, but I’d rather had the import of LUTs fixed rather than N Cal wasting dev resource.

this is considered bloat on other OSs (Xiaomi, Red. POCO, 1+, Samsung)

keep it simple and app-less from NOTHING

I mean, isn’t this point of the community, to provide the dev resource for un-important tasks?

oliverwhite2711

CMF1_hacker that makes so much sense. Even with my age I’m already making so many apps and websites it’s unreal. Plus my business pet-paths.site I would absolutely love to help the nothing Dev team with development but BC of my age I probably won’t be allowed. 😭 Also I just have no idea how I would get into that sort of thing.

CMF1_hacker

Anonymous931 the real argument is do we need both. We’re getting Google whether or not we want it. Do we need NOTHING’s versions of similar Apps, I’d argue no.

If you don’t want Google in Europe buy a Fairphone5 (I this FP5 better than the FP6 personally.)

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