Nothing OS 4.1 Roll Out

AyushYaduvanshi_sD5xyDzjFL

Ray5Z 😑 nothing can do anything brohhh it can be end of June also

MGokulmadhesh

societyacceptsme better switch to other companies even I’m thinking of it outdated ui and they inserting bloatware also instead of giving features time to switch my last few days with phone 3a

Anonymous1436

Zac 🛸 Still wondering when

Some Nothing OS 4.1 features currently available on Phone (4a) Series and Phone (3) are not yet included in this release for other devices. We’re continuing to gather feedback, fine-tune the experience, and prepare them for wider rollout in future updates.

😛 Excitement would be double if we get it by the starting week of June for 3A series and with the second week for 2A and CMF series

AlHusseinAnas

Deb_377x377

I also have this issue, and it’s frustrating

rishavagarwal

@Zac 🛸 any update on phone 3 black crush issue and green tint

KarlKeppler

My Phone 3 has no green tint or black crush, seems like 99.9% of the issues people are having are from India, but the rest of us EU and NA no issues, interesting to say the least…

Til21 🇩🇪

KarlKeppler I am from Germany and here you can cleary see green tint on lockscreen and colour Shifts when the panel switches from 120 to 60 Hz.

Maybe you can provide a video from your Phone (3) in dark condition with 0% brightness that assures that all the people having the same issues are just unlucky :-)

grepGander

Til21 🇩🇪 Phone (3) in dark condition with 0% brightness

I’ll quote myself:

grepGander Most OLEDs have twice as many green pixels than blue or red (because red and blue subpixels degrade faster, and because green produces more light with less current, so lower power consumption). Which is why you never see a “red tint issue” or a “blue tint issue”.

https://geometrian.com/resources/subpixelzoo/

This is the (4a) Pro for example:

https://www.notebookcheck.net/Hidden-gem-with-outstanding-design-Nothing-Phone-4a-Pro-review.1291726.0.html#c16169118

Green tint is annoying but it’s not an issue, it’s just a feature of OLED technology, and it’s how OLEDs work (how much you see it depends about PWM and/or DC dimming). But people wanted OLED instead of IPS, so here we are…

This is the Phone (3):

https://www.notebookcheck.net/Nothing-Phone-3-smartphone-review-Top-class-hardware-combined-with-unrivaled-design-and-secondary-display.1096614.0.html#c14221640

Til21 🇩🇪

grepGander you are probably right with all that stuff and it’s cool and interesting but it does absolutely not help 😃 What kind of feature is it to light up my whole screen with green colour when my Budget Phone 4a has no such problems while unlocking? Calling it a feature is a bit wild imho. The display of the Phone 3 with NOS 4.1 is not the normal behaviour of a screen from Phone that is worth 800€. Your explanation does not adress such things as PWM in detail, not the problems and the context of the refresh rate and the perfect calibration of a display (exact management of voltage) and the LUT’s opitmization. I know you just want to help but in the case of Phone (3) it is absolutely ovious that its behaviour is not normal.

grepGander

Til21 🇩🇪 My Phone 4a has no such problems as my Phone 3 so it is obvious that it is not the normal behaviour of the screen. Your explanation does not adress such things as PWM, as refresh rate and the perfect calibration of a display (exact management of voltage) and the LUT’s opitmization.

(4a):

(3):

(4a) has a better panel, with different (better balanced) subpixel layout, which is why you don’t notice it.

Til21 🇩🇪

grepGander Thanks! Could you please provide the source? I want to read a bit deeper into this topic🙂

grepGander

Til21 🇩🇪 Forgot to link those sources, well reviews, my bad 🥴

(4a): https://www.notebookcheck.net/Bargain-potential-and-stylish-design-Nothing-Phone-4a-review.1294915.0.html

(3): https://www.notebookcheck.net/Nothing-Phone-3-smartphone-review-Top-class-hardware-combined-with-unrivaled-design-and-secondary-display.1096614.0.html#c14221640

Til21 🇩🇪

grepGander thanks a lot!

UpawNothing

So maybe this is not correctable via a software update… Link to another article describing tint issues with OLED panels in low light conditions: -

https://us.ktcplay.com/blogs/technology-hub/why-oled-panels-have-color-tint-shift

The 4a panel is much lower resolution so maybe that helps.

grepGander

UpawNothing The 4a panel is much lower resolution so maybe that helps.

94.36% of the resolution is pretty much identical to the (3)'s. What’s different is the PWM amplitude, lower current at low brightness, and a far better subpixel matrix layout (less pronounced “spam” of green pixels), so it’s nowhere near as noticeable as on the (3), it’s noticeable but not to the user’s eye. The “fix” is to replace the panel with a totally different one (which doesn’t exist).

UpawNothing

grepGander Pretty disappointing then, flagship money for a poor quality display.

grepGander

UpawNothing Eh, true, I agree, but that cost cutting is also a reason why its starting price was 749€/$749 instead of 1199+ like wirh literally all other comparable flagships of other brands at the time of their launch. Another reason, and why simply “using the (4a)'s panel” wouldn’t work, is its different and pretty unique screen size. There is pretty much not a single existing phone (from the same era, so current tech, etc.) with that diagonal, which itself reduced panel availability. This means they didn’t go the safe and expensive route (Samsung, LG, BOE), but with an unspecified cheaper vendor who was able to create a custom panel of that size. So, lower quality is a part of that, too. If they had gone with an industry standard size (6.3″, for example, or 6.77/6.78″), they would have had a much larger choice of vendors (the previously mentioned trio, for example). But then again, the phone’s starting price wouldn’t start at 62.5% of other flagships’ base prices…

UpawNothing

grepGander Interesting, however the Galaxy S25 and iphone 16 were roughly the same price as the NP3, shame I bought an inferior product. I am not so worried about chip set performance but a quality screen is a fundamental requirement for a flagship device in my opinion.

Nothing Phone (3) vs. Galaxy S25 vs. iPhone 16: The $799 Flagship Battle

megatomic

UpawNothing “I am not so worried about chip set performance but a quality screen is a fundamental requirement for a flagship device in my opinion.”
I agree with you, unfortunately there is a vocal minority that demands the highest level of SoC performance, the largest quantity of RAM, and the fastest storage technology - all to scroll TikTok. Nothing has to balance those “needs” with the more rational needs you expressed. So here we are.

grepGander

UpawNothing I don’t disagree at all, especially about the screen quality, as that’s the single most-interacted-with component of the device. That comparison you posted is fair from the perspective of what you get for your money, although the iPhone 17 would be the right pick since both the Phone (3) and the S25 are 2025 phones, and the iPhone 17 came out only about 2.5 months after the Phone (3) (which came to the market about 5 months after the S25). The iPhone 16 is from 2024.

However, my point with “$1199+” was a comparison with flagships. A flagship is the best thing an OEM offers for that particular year. In Nothing’s case, that is the Phone (3) - they do not offer anything better.

In Apple’s case, that is the iPhone 17 Pro (including its larger Max variant)
in Samsung’s, that is the S25 Ultra
in Google’s, that is the Pixel 10 Pro (including the XL, $1199 starting price for the non-XL, while the iPhone 17 Pro and S25 Ultra were $1399-$1449 at the time of their launch)

All those phones offer significant and noticeable advantages over their cheaper base “nerfed” variants (Galaxy S25, iPhone 17, Pixel 10).

Value for money, those base non-flagship variants from your link, are overall better choices than the Phone (3), but in flagship terms, the Phone (3) started at a significantly lower price than the next cheapest flagship from those big names (the Pixel 10 Pro at $1199/€1199). Does that justify its cheap, non-flagship-level display panel? Absolutely not.

I still don’t understand the point of the Phone (3). Yes, Nothing is a very small company in the tech business, all fair there, and no reasonable person would expect them to compete with Apple, Samsung, and Google, but at least make your flagship a proper same-league flagship, right? It would be more expensive than $749 to start with, sure, perhaps $899, whatever… but at least it wouldn’t make compromises where compromise has no place to be made.

The chip, the 8s Gen 4, is completely fine, and just like you, I’m not complaining about it. It’s right behind the 8 Elite (Qualcomm’s flagship) in all metrics, and no person is capable of outperforming that chip in real world use. Meaning, yes, its benchmark numbers are lower than the 8 Elite, yet the user is still the bottleneck, so the chip is fine. But why not slap the best possible panel on it, which alone would be the wow factor for many prospective users? No idea.

On a slightly different note, Nothing has lately really been on a roll of overpromising and underdelivering in far too many areas…

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