Anonymous340 Exactly, maybe they will address it in a post or the next quarterly update on YT next year. To be honest, a product like this would have been better when Sunbird’s offical app was released publicly, at least the API’s and overall platform would be in such a state that other 3rd parties/partners can utilized their more ‘polished, tried and tested’ tech. But all these types of platforms (Sunbird, Beeper, etc.) are in the beta/closed testing phase, so it seems a bit pointless to drop a product like this right now. Would that be a fair enough assessment?

I like what Nothing is going for, just perhaps it was a bit rushed. And it perhaps contributed and forced Apples hands to implement RCS next year. That begs the question, will they end up just dropping the Sunbird platform altogether and make the Chats app a RCS-powered Google Messages alternative in their own image?

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      aarond203 Right!? That’s my question as well. Do they just make their own in-house, without a partnership now. OR do they just leave everything up to Google Messages + Apple in 2024. I’m guessing most users will still prefer just using Google Messages or another app versus a standalone Nothing Chats app unless Nothing offers something more compelling with more features overall.

        I dunno man. Google Messages is class, but I’m open to the idea of a Nothing-skinned messaging app, and a phone dialler as well. But it has to be as feature rich as Google’s phone and messaging apps, and they can add their own flair to it (ulitise glyph interface, animations, etc.) in order for it to attract users. And not to have it locked to those in-house apps, cause while they are Nothing apps, users should have the choice.

        As long as it stays consistant with the design language and the philosophy, I’m happy, because its what makes it stand out compared to others, and it works well consistently. I used to think that OxygenOS was the best OS implementation of Android, but NothingOS is the top dog in my opinion, and in a short space of time as well. 👌

          aarond203 Would be cool to see the Nothing Chats app setup similar to BlackBerry Hub, centralized location for all chat apps, similar to beeper as some noted. However at this point to make this truly secure and a much better platform, Nothing should just bring this in-house and cut out the third party partners.

          Also totally agree, NothingOS is so good. I swap phones a LOT but I always come back to the Nothing Phone (2) and NothingOS. It’s so smooth and overall fits my everyday the best.

              Anonymous340 The combination of the hardware and the software working so cohesively together makes it an easy recommendation, phone(2) is up there as one of the best phones of the year.

              If they can fix a few things here and there (The quick look widgets that only shows events from the main calendar and not other calendars 🙄 for example) and keep building on the OS by keeping it simple, I don’t see myself changing phone brands again

                  Sunbird App has now pulled their app following the security concerns. Their site doesn’t mention the removal of the app, but it is no longer available in the play store.

                    NHN From my experience man, I’ve had no issues, so I can’t complain, and I think it’s the general consensus among most users. For the hardware alone, it’s surely in the conversation, no? Maybe I’m missing something here..

                        waiting for the global release

                        aarond203

                        Display is fine.

                        Camera hardware is not bad at all but software to it is very bad.

                        Audio is like in most mid-range phones.

                        Chip in it is too old to consider phone a premium.

                        If for display alone the phone is upper class. But that does not make a premium phone and far from one of the best this year.

                            Fair assessment lexlexus, camera processing is alway a tricky thing to get right on most mid-range phones in fairness.

                              Midhun After watching JRE’s video, I completely agree with Gun_Put on this, it’s shocking. JRE said it perfectly, they basically ‘right-clicked and saved’ the skin images onto their own cases. Casetify’s looks like something from Wish.com. But JRE and dbrand have a valid case here to go against them, so let’s hope they come out of it on the right side.🤞

                                  Midhun Casetify is honestly not a great brand and hasn’t been for years. They ghost creators all the time as well and have abruptly ended existing deals with creators without cause. I wouldn’t be shocked if we see more people come forward with additional fraud, intellectual property claims, etc.. I usually go without a case on all my phones personally but I have enjoyed dbrand skins in the past, as well as working with dbrand. While they certainly market their dark humor, behind the scenes, and their customer service quite honestly, are awesome. Met Zack years ago at a OnePlus event actually and he was super nice, approachable, and seems like a great dude overall with everything he does and supports. Sucks to see something like this happen in the space. Especially something so clearly stolen.

                                      Midhun

                                      What a sweet video. Very interesting. Casetify is a company selling poor quality at premium prices, and stealing look through cases so why Nothing has anything to do with Casetify is not easy to understand, Casetify does not have a tailormade case for Nothing Phone and stealing from a little company can really show how much greed is ruining the world. And Casetify has been praised in this forum.

                                      Hope the stupid copy company get its fingers burned.

                                      A phone company that feels comfortable working with a copy-cat company is risking a lot. Maybe that is all just carelessness like the not functioning iMessenger app on Google Play Store, but getting involved into selling clothes and other not really technical stuff is not what I think a phone making company should do.

                                      It would be better if Nothing started fixing the problems on the phone instead of competing with H&M and ZARA, etc.

                                      No more products from Nothing for me.