"NOTHING" changed

AkhilAkhil_dze21zIfcN · 2025-10-01T06:10:24+00:00

I am very disappointed of the nothing update 4.0 ..google released Android 16 with a lot of features and we got NOTHING..while other brands making their devices more special with lock screen customization and other items…

MarcelAlexandru

pnknot lol, IPhone is anything but customizable 😅

Jovey

Err_404NotFound To be honest, I’ve been kind of looking forward to the terminal Android 16 had. I’m not sure how many vendors support it though, I know that it’s a thing on Pixels and some Samsung devices running 16.

Would’ve been great to have it here too IMHO.

CMF1_hacker

Jovey I thought there was a Linux terminal in developer options, let me check again.

edit: yeah, it crashes when trying to load the VM.

blimey

Anonymous931

Jovey I’ve been kind of looking forward to the terminal Android 16 had. I’m not sure how many vendors support it though, I know that it’s a thing on Pixels and some Samsung devices running 16.

Everyone is mandated by Google to support it: https://source.android.com/docs/core/virtualization

The point of it is to use it in desktop mode, with external displays, as a unified experience on all devices (so not just Samsung DeX and similar implementations).

Jovey Would’ve been great to have it here too IMHO.

Won’t happen because Nothing took the scummy route and chose to save about $0.00 (yes, zero) and opt for USB 2.0 instead of USB 3.0 or better.

Jovey

CMF1_hacker Oh yeah, just updated to the Beta and it is there! But, same issue here. Just gives a “Non-protected Vms are not supported on this device” error.

But the fact that the option is there is a good start! Hopefully the issue will be resolved later?

Anonymous931 But wouldn’t that only affect DeX-like functionality? I would be content with the Terminal alone tbh, having GPU acceleration on a VM sounds pretty fun!

Either way yeah you guys are right it does have Terminal support, it’s just broken atm. Hopefully they fix it in the later Beta updates!

CMF1_hacker

Anonymous931 well it’s (the implementation in NOS 4.0b) not currently working, the terminal app, with the error trace that I posted above

interestingly, these seems to be q Qualcomm issue rather than a NTL implementation issue and it could be corrected with a OTA update.

Stereobasic

Anonymous931 “Nothing took the scummy route and chose to save about $0.00 (yes, zero) and opt for USB 2.0 instead of USB 3.0 or better.”

So my question is why they do that ? What’s the point ? Why this choice ?

Maybe like that they don’t have to develop or adapt the new desktop mode ?

Maybe it’s to add some features on the next flagship saying “wee listen, here are the ALL NEW usb 3.0” ?

If the economy is really kind of zero, then what can be the explanation knowing that they knew very well that (some) consumers would find it disappointing.

Anonymous931

Arbaaz_rRhvxSXQI3 and yeah the desktop mode needs 3.0 … so we are ages behind that .. at this point.. you guys are just defending them ..

Yeah, I can’t stop defending them:

Anonymous931

No USB 3.0 or higher = no desktop mode.

All Nothing phones are stuck 25 years ago with USB 2.0.

Anonymous931 The point of it is to use it in desktop mode, with external displays, as a unified experience on all devices (so not just Samsung DeX and similar implementations).

Jovey Would’ve been great to have it here too IMHO.

Won’t happen because Nothing took the scummy route and chose to save about $0.00 (yes, zero) and opt for USB 2.0 instead of USB 3.0 or better.

Plus many more, I’m too lazy to search because search here is dysfunctional. But yeah, if you point out some good and positive things, or if you dare to think logically about the situation and not rush with conclusions, then it’s ⚠️⚠️⚠️ YoU aRe DeFeNdInG tHeM ⚠️⚠️⚠️ for sure.

If one is not chronically negative about everything in a phone then they surely must love everything about it. It’s all binary in your world, 1 or 0, white or black, nothing else. Boring…

Anonymous931

Jovey But wouldn’t that only affect DeX-like functionality? I would be content with the Terminal alone tbh, having GPU acceleration on a VM sounds pretty fun!

Yes, but you can’t really do much on a small screen. It is intended to use with external display and peripherals.

Anonymous931

NasarFoysol There are other brands and phones on the market. You are not forced to stick with Nothing and wait what Xiaomi already has for 10+ years 🤷‍♂️

NasarFoysol

Anonymous931 Okay, you don’t need to see what Xiaomi did, just look at the Pixel phones. At least those phones are not just in black and white, black and white, black and white, wtf. You can’t even change the color of the phone’s theme. Is that minimalism?

Anonymous931

NasarFoysol You are getting angry and throwing insults at other people over - how some pixels look on the screen. Like a little child who goes into tantrum because of a cartoon.

Is how the UI look really that important in your life? Is the overall quality of your life going to get better because of a different UI? If yes - you seriously have MANY other options, and you are not forced to stay with Nothing against your will 🤷‍♂️

NasarFoysol

Anonymous931 Listen, I chose Nothing for its processor thermal management system. The phone is cool, everything is fine, but just one thing — a simple thing. It’s not hard for devs, just give different colors in theme so that the icons or status bar look different. Just color, nothing else. And put AI in the gallery like Samsung or other brands did. And I can’t insult a person whose life is in black & white lonely bot; means already half dead.

AbiS_MjZL72iTVk

Anonymous931 If how the UI looks is not important to you as well… then why are you refusing any changes . Is that only you can say , “I want the UI to look like this” . And others should not ?

@CMF1_hacker Access to the playground can be given as any x.1 or x.5 updates , if not they could have announced it 1 or 2 months later , why they’ve launced simultaneous to the major update , so that they can coverup all this shii… Imagine this in the Nothing Discussion Meeting “ Sir , should we add better features to the OS ” . : No man , there are some foolish people ,who will accept this as a major update , with one access to a website based widget creator. So leave it , chill" Haha sounds apt to you right ?

As they’ve decided to project stock images as taken from NP3 because they thought foolish people like you are here to blindly support anything from them.Period.

Anonymous931

NasarFoysol You have your life priorities set, that is good. You are just refusing to achieve them (by changing brands). Enjoy your day.

CMF1_hacker

NasarFoysol you seem angry and I feel sorry for you. I’m not always complementary and really test everything … see my CMFW3P review … I gave it a score of 4/10 and they took away the second hand on my favourite watch face because of it.

The NP3 runs smoothly and I’m happy with the updates. The modes widget is stellar. I can’t wait to play with Playground and start designing sharing some “apps.”

I’m sorry you didn’t receive your desired new battery icon.

NasarFoysol

CMF1_hacker brother I’m sorry very very sorry i should not talk like that after all we’re in same the community. sorry brother. 🙏

Shaurya

AkhilAkhil_dze21zIfcN I don’t like they removed red color from quick settings panel options. I dont know why they do that but that’s very bad.

CMF1_hacker

Shaurya now, this is one thing I realise dislike.

I love the flashing red square light on the rear of the NP3. And that red accent is stellar, i.e. the Gallery icon.

Stereobasic

NasarFoysol Buying a brand that say we are Minimalism ! And then… complain because there is no “maximalism”. People are crazy.

And more, you have to think not only about yourself. Because your own “just one thing, a simple things” is not the same for every person. And if you add-up everyone “just one little thing”, then it’s… everything. And you bought Nothing, not everything!

My personal little things is adding a way to add text or simple drawing in the photos on the Nothing gallery.

Anonymous931

Stereobasic My personal little things is adding a way to add text or simple drawing in the photos on the Nothing gallery.

But you can’t draw if there is no colourful battery icon in the top right corner 🥺 It’s not possible to do anything at all in the gallery with this current m🤢n🤢chr🤢matic icon!

Edit: F’kin’ hell, and here I am removing all possible icons unless I really need them, I don’t even have that “problematic” % in the top right until I pull the panel down 😂

Less is more as long as it’s super-functional and easy to use, well for me at least (which is why I like Nothing OS so much), but then some people really want everything spammed everywhere; and to be iOS 26, it must be like iOS 26, that’s the most important part!!1 🤩🤩 dYnAmIc IsLaNd 🤩🤩

Can Nothing OS be improved? Absolutely, it’s far from being perfect. Is improvement turning it into a Clown OS with form over function? Absolutely not. And even then, if one wants all that so badly, just root + Magisk and go crazy, it’s not like there is no freedom to do it on their own if they really want that…

Anonymous931

Stereobasic Only they can answer that, I really have no idea. All I know is that they are the single existing OEM with USB 2.0 in their flagship phone in 2025 (and 2024 even), every other brand is on 3.1 or 3.2, some with many midrangers also 🤷‍♂️

Edit: Filtered for 2024 and newer, 700€ and higher, USB 3.0 and more:

https://m.gsmarena.com/results.php3?nYearMin=2024&nPriceMin=700&nChargingWMax=40&nUSBType=2

Who is missing? Nothing. The lower you go with the starting price that funnier it gets.

CMF1_hacker

Stereobasic because as of today it makes zero difference? One could argue future-proofing if they wanted.

How many sales did NTL lose due to the USB 2.x usage?

Probably as many as due to the Victus 7i glass or the LTPO/LTPS decisions, i.e. very few.

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