Thoughts on small/compact form factor phones

NumDePlum · 2023-09-03T07:16:22+00:00

A Nothing “Small” version in my opinion is a must have device in an industry where consumers are pushed to purchase larger phones becoming more & more addicted to their phones. The potential future small Nothing (0) features: * Between 5.4" & 5.7" screen * Advanced energy-efficient screen * Modern energy-efficiency based processor with 5G * Better than industry standard long-term security, OS, software support * Innovative solid-state battery * A singular but really good camera * Priced Fairly - though I mainly created this post fundamentally for the inclusion of a smaller device, considering the investment into R&D of the “Small”, naturally pricing it would be your volition but it would be great if it was on par to Apple’s original SE & Mini or even the Nothing Phone (1) for that matter. Caveats: * Battery - by the time R&D is finalised for the “Small” version I strongly believe solid-state batteries especially for smaller based devices would be more apparent in the industry as opposed to significantly higher amperage & voltage based solutions for EVs, so I think it would be available option for the “Small” Nothing (0) phone. * The Zenphone 10 by Asus has shown to be quite compelling in the past & present but in my opinion what they did wrong was deliver a really compelling product with most if not all the features of much larger phones & it can also be recognized in the pricing such as implementing edge solutions, i.e larger battery, 5.9" screen, larger cameras & not forgetting the leading edge processor by Qualcomm which is the Snapdraggon 8 Gen 2. I mean what were they thinking? I think it’s just too powerful & unnecessary of a processor & feel free to disagree with me but I feel the next best thing from MediaTek would have been great. * The iPhone Mini was such a great option & honestly still is but they don’t share the same principals as Nothing but to be quiet honest not many companies do, which is why I think a solution from Nothing would be such a brilliant product offering in the market. The Mini’s sales for iPhone was said to have floundered but that was only in comparison to it’s larger phones, fact of the matter is, they sold millions which to them & industry analysts isn’t great enough which is ridiculous. Apple’s “Mini” based users honestly appreciate their phones more & there are still many mini 12 & mini 13 & even SE users that haven’t upgraded their phones at all. * Unihertz also offer a mini phone option and they’re great, their sales are also good, however, one thing in my opinion detrimental about them is they arguably don’t provide long enough support for their products & services which when it comes to security, it could be seen as a negative especially as their users get attached to their products. Unlike the American counterparts I’m not as judgemental towards Chinese companies; I think a lot of them are great, however because of the cultural barrier unfortunately a lot of things can be confused in translation & I feel coming to the western market & exploding with prosperity can be seen as difficult for them when it comes to traditional consumer based solutions, the phone market being a classic example of this, though it does seem to be slowly changing. Closing remarks: I’ve created a similar topic on other phone manufacture forums & honestly, no joke, the desire for a smaller phone is great. I wouldn’t lie but here are some of the stats that I recorded from one other popular global phone manufacturers forum should you actually contemplate this - If you were to collate all the stats pertaining to a mini based mobile phone from x forum community, it has garnered well over 8000 views, well over 170 likes and well over a 130 replies. Which may not sound like a lot but you can ask your team that from a competing Android based device that is huge. This company has been existence since 2018 I think & the first post regarding a “small” phone appeared on their forum in July of 2021, the post after that being created in July of 2022 and my post being the last one having no foresight of there ever being a post which I wanted to create in July 2023 but posted this month of August of 2023; so honestly, every year since the release of x phone on Sep 2020, users & people in general having genuinely been desiring a compact phone, again, not necessarily with bells & whistles & certainly not like the top tier Samsung S’twenties’ with Snapdragon 8 Gens, but just the design aesthetics & principal of the Nothing brand. In one holiday season it was reported that Apple sold 40 million iPhone 13 units, in addition, I think this report was in reference to the introduction of the iPhone 13 to (i think) the full quarters end that it intended to sell 300 million units at the end of the fiscal or general years end 2022, 300 million units! I think the SE & the Mini stats should be combined (based on the idea of a small phone argument) previous reports suggest sales were around 10%, however, both models weren’t phased out, they continue to sell them officially. In dollar terms & taking the cost of the cheapest non SE version phone, 300 million units would account to just under 165 billion, divide that by 10 (10%) would give you a sum of just over 16 billion. Regardless of the fact the Mini and SE accounted for a smaller number of sales in comparison to the couple of inches larger phones, it still did sell, it still does sell & it is still appreciated by Apple users and non Apple users. I would so love to purchase a smaller Nothing phone, maybe one through Murena as well to see how their /e/OS works at some point. I’d appreciate some insight from Carl if he’s available through this platform or maybe even a youtube video to discuss why it simply isn’t a viable option because literally every other phone manufacturer that I’ve discussed this with the exception of Apple because they’re so uptight simply won’t consider it. Best regards

KalpeshPitale

First time I took the phone in hand, my thought was only we had nothing mini… it would be a niche and highly premium somehow

irfun4ever

i want Nothing follows what Apple is doing with Pro devices. Same specs but two different size. really bigger than 6.1 inch is not usable for me.

RamisettyRanganadh

I strongly agree and support this idea. I’m looking for smartphones with 5 inches bezel less display for myself and for my mom. This kinda phone grabs a lot of people who likes to keep their mobile lite, small and minimalistic weight and dimensions. My mom always ask me for small and lite weight phone. I think this will work out with many parents especially mom’s.

AnthonyGailes

hi. i havent moved from apple because i love the smaller form factor of the iphone 13 mini. i have been android longer than i have been with apple. i really like what your company is doing and i love the design of your products. there are some that do not like these huge phones and i am one of them. if you guys made a 6 inch phone, i would leave apple in a heartbeat. thanks

AnthonyGailes

i would be happy to pay the same price as a nothing 2 if this phone was made. 6 inches is perfect for me.

AadithK

Support support support. For years I’ve been wanting a phone that’s in the 5.9 to 6.1 inch screen size category that when bought would not break my bank account. Can understand why companies go for the bigger screen options especially in the budget to mid-range options as the market prefers that feature. But Nothing as a company that caters to and respects the opinions of its community/Enthusiasts is the closest chance we can get to convey our desire. The majority of the tech enthusiasts that I’ve talked to conveyed their desire to own a compact flagship or midrange compact phone. We kind of go with other options just because we can’t find a good compact one with decent specs (excluding the display) in the market. The closest option would be the Asus Zenfone lineup which is sadly not officially available in India(Where I’m from). If there’s even a tiny chance Nothing would consider this in the future. I and a lot of tech enthusiasts will be eternally grateful to Nothing. If this post reaches anywhere I would like to pitch in some reasonable specs for that compact phone. Fingers crossed.

mark0

It would be amazing to get mini version, maybe even like a limited drop. Probably you know the market much better but imagine Nothing 2.5 in mini version?! That would be killer. Remember time when Sony had the compact line or Iphone mini line, Zenphone etc. Like one big lens camera, very good battery, 120hz screen, good processor. and put it around 350 euros like real value phone. Think it would shake the market and bring Nothing more heat. I am overwhelmed with big phones tbh.

JanPosik

I use iphone 13 mini. And I fell in love with the Nothing phone 1. If only it was more compact. You have to make a Nothing phone 1, but the size of the iPhone 13 mini would be luxurious. The main thing is that there is a fingerprint in the display. I miss that on the iPhone.

ShriramMathivanan

Hi Carl.. I an thinking about upgrading my Mid range Samsung M31 to Asus Zenfone 10 due to its small form factor but with powerful specs. Since Asus sell Zenfone 10 not sold in India. I am looking for other options. I don’t want another Samsung or Expensive Apple. Except Camera in Iphone i don’t find anything works for me being an Android user. So i am looking for some phone with is small compact with Excellent Camera with good battery life. If you see this message. Are you able to produce a phone with small form factor for Indians. I am looking for a phone which is pocket friendly and i can use it in single hand like Asus Zenfone 10. Can anyone from Nothing team pass this message to Carl Pei or Nothing Phone development team about my request. Thank you

JOMASent_es

Hi to everyone. I agree with your idea of a compact nothlng phone. I believe 5.4 to 5.7 inches would be great.

On the other hand, I understand that small phones are not a lot profitable right now, but they could be with a good publicity.

In my case, a can’t move one arm, I have a disability and a compact phone is really usefull for people like me, who only use one hand. I invité you try using your smarthphone with just one hand, no more, one hand when you are walking.

Right now, just iPhone, Asus and google have some compact phones, but the iPhone 13 mini is the most easy to use.

Keep in mind that compact smartphones are a great choice not just for the normal consumer, they are necessary for people with some disability. Sometimes we need un think out of the box.

Ali Fakhruddin

I recently shared a Nothing Mini concept idea. Something to consider for the team.

tarif1231

TheDave 5.5′' is just perfect

tarif1231

Dear Nothing,

I am reaching out to express my interest in the potential development of a Mini Pro Phone with the innovative touch that Nothing is known for.

I have been following Nothing’s journey closely and have been impressed by the company’s commitment to pushing the boundaries of technology. The idea of a Mini Pro Phone aligns perfectly with the sleek and minimalist design philosophy that Nothing has championed.

I would like to explore the possibility of collaborating with Nothing to bring this concept to life. I believe that combining Nothing’s design expertise and cutting-edge technology with a compact, feature-rich Mini Pro Phone could create a unique and desirable product for consumers.

Specs like:

Sleek and minimalist design, in line with Nothing’s design philosophy.
Lightweight and pocket-friendly for ultimate portability.
A vibrant and high-resolution AMOLED display for stunning visuals.
Edge-to-edge screen with minimal bezels for an immersive viewing experience.
Compact form factor without compromising on screen real estate.
Powerful processor for smooth multitasking and responsive performance.
8GB RAM or more to handle resource-intensive applications seamlessly.
High-quality 3 rear and 1 front cameras for capturing sharp images and videos.
Advanced camera features such as AI enhancements, low-light optimization, and portrait mode.
Long-lasting battery to ensure all-day usage without frequent charging.
Fast charging technology for quick and convenient power-ups.
5G capability for lightning-fast internet speeds.
Bluetooth 5.0 for seamless connectivity with a variety of devices.
USB Type-C port for charging and data transfer, would be great.

I would appreciate the opportunity to discuss this idea further and explore the potential for collaboration. Please let me know if there is a convenient time for a meeting or if there are specific channels through which you prefer to discuss such proposals.

Thank you for considering my inquiry. I look forward to the possibility of working together to create something truly extraordinary.

tarif1231

display must be 5.5′'

SwojasBhalunkar

Is nothing working on a smaller pro phone, if not should they?

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