PardhanSingh TBH Nothing is very minimal and stock Android and it’s unique, user friendly & has a brilliant UI with super responsiveness. Camera is actually not bad either. The points that u are mentioning applies for all other phones out there especially apples and the other Androids. Nothing feels like ur using a NEXUS device if u know what I mean. Nothing is constantly providing updates and improving their product & software being a new company and we’ll knowledged in what they are doing.so allow it some time to pickup. If u expect ur points to be in nothing phone. Will all due respect you should consider other options that suit u and other genre of people. After all u can customise Android the way u want. Only thing I dislike about nothing is them switching away from Qualcomm. Not sure if they realise it. Nothing phone 2a is gonna come with a mediatek I believe and that’s going to be a big down side. As atleast the phone 1 had the best processor in the 7series. But sticking to 8 series processor is what nothing should actually consider. Nothing phone glyphs are not for all. It’s a feature which u can turn on and off. So complaining about it is not arguable as it’s an added feature and that’s not the main reason why the phone should sell. If people are buying for the glyph alone, then they are of the playful category mostly inclined towards the teenagers and early adults.. the ones who consider it as a feature are matured audience who actually look into the UX & performance. Infact there are many stickers out there which could turn the phones glyph for music visualization to a next level. Which some won’t find it interesting but the future has weired things in store and at that point nothing would still stand out. Remember the nokia 3220. People went crazy on it. And had custom ringtones to match the lighting. That’s a simple added feature. So people shouldn’t but nothing for the sake of glyph. Look into it as just any other Android worthy for its performance/ user experience/ battery back up/ screen quality/ network/ camera/ charging speeds(thankfully this has the same speeds of OnePlus 9r/8t thought it’s 45w)/ and the in hand feel and onehand usability…. Etc etc. & IMO a phone without AI is actually comparitively safer.

What you expect from a 3 year old company? it just started wait for more time until it settles completely then they can give 4-5 years. what will they earn if they start giving at the beginning itself!!!. They still did great things with NOS it’s pretty much clean with the customisation’s.

juelali he have lots of experience from Oneplus

Yes agreed, but that doesn’t necessarily mean he has the exact same resource and team numbers.

kshitijsinha71 Nothing has taken a lot of hype and haven’t delivered anything that can be a solid win

So what are you expecting exactly that’s a solid win?

Look, rather than fighting and debating among ourselves is pointless. Both point of views are right at their place. And i believe that we should try to understand each one’s perspective. While i love the phone, its true that i also wish that there should be features that makes us love the phone even more. And 5 years seems like a good period for updates. And the fact that people are demanding this shows the expectations we have for this brand. So don’t go around saying carl pei or nothing is a new brand and is growing with struggle. Nothing was built with the passion to beat iphone. So keep your game face on👊

I agree with @Louis ☕️ Nothing is a new company. We should give them time to establish and I am myself owner of Nothing Phone 2 and I love the device. They are working hard and trying their best. And also Carl has completely new team. And also they provide us quick updates too. @Carl your work and products are great. Keep going

    PardhanSingh Thank God someone pointed this out!

    You’re right. Nothing OS really lacks on features which are available on all other brands, like spatial audio. I’ve put so many mails for suggestions and I don’t think they’re even being considered.

    About the cameras, not worth ₹50000 I paid. HDR processing is unreliable and low light performance is inconsistent too.

    There’s no way this phone can compete with 12R which is of the same price. 12R offers:

    Spatial Audio (big deal)

    Customisation (like AOD styles, specific icon renaming, status bar customisation)

    8 Gen 2

    Super fast charging

    5500 mAh battery

    HDR on Netflix

    Proper gaming mode

    Dolby Atmos

    Smart cutout

    Alert slider

    Video portrait

    1.5K display

    Hotspot manager

    Smart erase

    Lock screen gestures

    Aqua touch

    IR Blaster

    Network access management (can disable specific app’s access to WiFi or mobile data or both)

    over the Nothing Phone (2) in 2024 at the same price.

    I would trade in the Glyphs (which I do use frequently) in a heartbeat for something more useful like smart cutout, and definitely for spatial audio.

    I like the Glyph Interface and the quick settings widgets of this OS, but this excitement weared off long back.

    Also their customer service is bad. I raise an issue and the agent on the other side doesn’t seem to understand what issue I’ve raised and is telling me to perform actions which either I’ve already done or have no relation to this

    One major problem I raised is about mobile network unnecessarily consuming the most battery, more than the screen and more than any app. The response I get is to check what’s draining my battery when that is exactly how I found out that mobile network is draining battery.

    Genuinely considering selling this phone now and save a bit more for 12R if it’s camera software is better.

    Phone already lacked haptic integration and now you don’t feel the haptic feedback while opening the recents screen. Bugs don’t get fixed! Even the issue of the lower part of the screen being unresponsive hasn’t been fixed.

    Can’t recommend this brand to anyone tbh. Really had an expectation considering Carl Pei did well in OnePlus and with Phone (1). He should have just stayed in OnePlus in my opinion. That way OnePlus wouldn’t have had Color OS and we would still have an all rounder brand. (Though this is not a part of this conversation, just wanted to state my opinion.)

      Having at least 4 or 5 years of os update for nothing 3 is a must if you want to market it as your flagship phone. Other companies are catching up.

      since December there is no official stable update….only open beta updates when will you give stable updates iwaiting for features to use in my phone..scare to download open version

      Louis ☕️ But to be Frank , The cameras need a great workaround. Front, Main and UW. HDR processing is worse. Sharpness and details are more to be desired. Even after updating to 2.5.2, it still bad for a phone that has such a great camera hardware and ISP. No hate on the team behind it but out of all aspects of phone 2, Camera performance is a lot to be desired. It doesn’t even have a HDR on/off toggle. A phone with a price of Rs. 10,000/- has it.

      juelali carl pei wasn’t CEO of OnePlus, he only worked in marketing and Software department

      I want an answer from Nothing. Why they are not able to resolve the HDR issue? I believe the screen is not enough bright.

      PardhanSingh I agree with camera performance since super zoomed in photos just get over processed but the glyphs aren’t trash their honestly useful and super fun, I greatly enjoy have that touch of fun and nothing has the best UI. U miss the point with alot of things abt nothing. If ur a boomer go buy an iphone for same crap every year and then it’ll explode in 5 yrs. Features for students? What does that even mean lmao, the user experience nothing delivered is the best compared to most Androids and iphone. Really is perfection that aesthetic monotonous shade it gives to everything, I bet u use normal colours on ur nothing. U miss the mark with ur points, this phone isn’t like those safe play boring companies and it’s for techies not clowns

      PardhanSingh You are right. There is nothing any interesting features except glyph light and some other features in nothing os.

      Louis ☕️ sir, stop being in the side of nothing. Think from our perspective. When initially nothing phone 1 was released no one was interested in it. Phone 1 got it’s hype by end of year. People stated that phone has become extraordinary because of software updates. Nothing gave 2 updates a month which included both improvemental and security updates. After announcing nothing phone 2 the frequency of rolling updates have been slowed down. As phone 2 released the updates were coming too late. They said that we are working on new NOTHING OS. The nothing os released for phone 2. But they said they will be releasing it for phone 1 by end of the year. From the release of nothing phone 2, phone 1 stopped getting updates, updates were given ones in a blue moon.

      People expected regular software updates like which were rolled out in January, February and March of 2023 throughout the span which other phone manufacturers were not able to provide. Contrary to the expectations, Nothing stopped rolling updates for phone 1 , which is unacceptable.

      It’s been 3 months since last stable update rolled out for nothing phone 1. November 23rd is the recorded date for release of os 2.0.5.

      Why so? Why nothing too behaving alike other smartphone manufacturers. Upon releasing successor why keeping older phone 1 aside? We people didn’t buy phone 1 expecting this…

      Also nothing sent invitation for NOS closed beta.

      Which many people agreed to join and share feedbacks. When they agreed and joined into closed beta and open beta is rolled out. Nothing should also show a way to downgrade to open beta right?

      Why nothing didn’t provide? Why just ignored the people who were in closed beta. Nothing was saying need to flash whole os via adb.for which no guide was provided. It was a big heck flashing os. When upgrading to closed beta was too easy why downgrading is not? When updates and os were shown as selling point then that should be strong.

      Join the telegram channel of nothing phone global. You will be able to experience wide variety of problems with phones and complaints. Using these platforms where people can’t join or familiar with and conducting these type of discussions are not gonna work.

      I didn’t mean to degrade or humiliate the company. I am just trying to explain our perspective. Phone 1 still have many bugs which I reported. Work on them rather than releasing new phones. We consumers didn’t expect this and buy phone. In India, smartphone is an investment for parents for their children. Regretting or losing the value of investment hurts a lot. Hope you and nothing understands this, Works and helps consumers.

      Even this post needs approval/ moderation right?

        PardhanSingh nahh no one will use this processor for more than 3 years, I think at most 3 years os update is needed instead of 2, and they should continue allowing unlocking the bootloader like they currently do, the custom rom support especially phone 1 has is just excellent